So if I appear to be defending her or anyone else that is generally presented as unsavoury, it's because I think there should be a balance to anyone spoken about.Even Charles Watson. But what happened before and after that. I believe, in fact I know, others were present when he was killed who were never even charged. ID of S.E. Her testimony eventually led to the convictions of Manson, Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel, and Van Houten. Perhaps soemthing more general. But a vote for a real mass murderer like Clinton is the better choice. When I put this thing together while the high school stuff was fun, for me the heart of the matter was the 'Odyssey' article. Granted, Dean Moorehouse was the kind of Dad that I'd like to jail for a very long time, notwithstanding acid blitzing his being, but it would appear that Ruth had some things going on within her that weren't vastly different to Linda. So WHY was Bugliosi and or the DA so obsessed with getting Charles Manson instead ?Bottom line question Robert; do you think Manson was guilty as charged or not ? A second marriage to an Armenian-American hippie named Robert Kasabian, who she met in Boston, followed in 1967. But then I would likely have to put her on the stand and that would not go well. Charles Manson and the Killing of Shorty Shea, Charles Manson Behind Bars: The Crazy Antics and Amazing Revelations Of America's Icon of Evil, Charles Manson: The Man Who Killed the 60s, Charles Manson. I am unclear what you mean by the 'got in Parent's car' issue. Not only that, they all happened to be dramatic and under the surfaces lurks alternative and more reasonable possibilities.For example: Bugliosi had a problem. "I don't like what Hitler did or represents in the wider scheme of things but I can see the good side he had in terms of helping Germany back from it's collective knees after what happened with Versailles. Now that said I happen to agree with this opinion: "The mission, ladies and gentlemen, the mission of these defendants on both nights, was murder. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. Yes. I have for the past many years looked at these crimes from the prospective of how I might have handled the defense. At the very least, he was an accessory before the fact in that particular crime. Over here in England, working as a care assistant in a home for the elderly is not really seen as particularly caring work much of the time, it's often seen as a job anyone can do that wants to earn definite {low} money and the overwhelming majority of care workers I've known have not been native to these shores. // -->, Manson Blog Tour 2020! It doesn't need to be personal. I have also enjoyed all of the comments related to this postlove all of the insights. The next night, she again drove the family including the previous night members as well as Charles Manson, Leslie Van Houten and Steve Grogan to the house of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, rich owners of a grocery store chain. It doesn't really matter. That's 3 times in a week. (click for details). Or for purposes of this blog do they show an alternative narrative to what is the official narrative. It would be like cutting Hitler slack.Still, I have seen in my life so so many others that I considered good folk pour a bunch of chemicals in their brains and take paths of destruction and violence. Pat never admitted to it though it was in her thought process, just not as the specific reason for being at Cielo. Linda Kasabian; however, stuck to her testimony. He also said that what was needed was corroboration and that it didn't really matter who ended up as the star witness.It's true that he had little to no case against Leslie at that point, but Diane Lake changed that forever. So WHY was Bugliosi and or the DA so obsessed with getting Charles Manson instead ? Groups like the Revolutionary Youth Movement- Weather Underground and precursors to the SLA like those in the Revolutionary Union who support the strategy of urban warfare espoused by people like H Bruce Franklin and the leadership of Venceramos (sp?) "Oh yes, Mr Pritchard has been convicted in the past of robbing banks, but he lives at home and looks after his elderly and disabled Mother and his wayward sister's troubled child..". The Last of the Manson Girls, Sharon Tate-The Biography Sharon Tate Book 2011, The Manson File- Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Vanity Fair April 2011 interview w/Charlie in Spanish. It has positive aspects but often, is anything but.Linda is one person people on both sides can agree was no good personally.I wouldn't say that about anybody. Aside from what she wrote, in her 1978 parole hearing she stated "so that at the time that even that I was on the witness stand and gave all my testimony, at that time of my testimony, I was expecting any day really for the world to come to an end at that point on the witness stand. Do I mean the jury should disregard it? Debra Tate Disgraces the Words Victims' Advocate, Manson Blog Reveals True Identity and Fate of Ruby Pearl. Sandy Good said that on a talk show she was on with George and Patti and I think Bugs might have been there too.Thanks though. But what happened before and after that. I don't remember did she show a license or maybe she didn't even have one to show? It probably seems quite insensitive to say this, but lots of people have lost loved ones to murderous violence and in addition, Rosemary LaBianca's daughter Suzan at one point demonstrated that not only was it possible to get over it, but that forgiveness and it's aftermath were realistic propositions. She has been portrayed a number of times in films. And I find it hard to believe that Bugliosi was so stupid as to not check either, knowing that his case would be seriously compromised if it came out that LK had no valid licence.Incidentally, it was Bugliosi and Bugliosi alone that speculated that the the only reason Linda was along both those nights was because she was the only one left with a valid driving licence, being that Mary was in the clink. When he sends Gypsy & Squeaky to Leslie, even though she's implicated him in the murders and helter skeltered all over the shop, she declares she'll do anything he says and doesn't care if she sniffs gas and what she told Marvin Part is never made public {until 2015}. linda kasabian daughter tanya INTRO OFFER!!! Before Tate-LaBianca She attended Milford High School in Milford, New Hampshire in 1964 and 1965. I don't know.Q. Im open to another motive and assuming there probably is one, but cant find the same evidence for it that I can for H/S- all am I saying By the way Dreath - if you have never seen it you can go to Back Porch Tapes and watch the video of Beatrice Berry Show- or Bertrice Berry? HS crawled in 4th out of 6.Personally, I suspect that the ease and commonality with which Helter skelter is dismissed reflects a discomfort with the notion of God communicating, religion and the spiritual realm being taken seriously. She was expecting their second child when Robert left her behind once again to go on a South American sailing trip. He wasn't even charged with shooting Lotsapoppa, but we all know it happened..The question: what if she was ASKED?She wasn't asked, she was told. How do we know she didn't take part in some act of violence?Lo' and be hold, Bugliosi had a perfect scenario to answer this very important question and yet, when one looks at where that apartment was, it seems like another kill two birds with one stone job. Pat too- and their stories are all the same after all these years.I ask myself these things when telling myself it cant be H/S because everyone in TLB land says so.. St Circumstance saidGeorge and Schreck have spoken to all the people around the killersAnd yet are no more agreed on the motive. There is an interesting quote from Fleischmann in an issue of the Free Press prior to Kasabian becoming the star witness. It was mentioned but the actual 'only two who had one' argument to explain why Kasabian was sent was made at the Watson trial. That was given, was a givenI committed to what Tex said."Which, I guess, tells one anything, something or nothing. A Conversation with Johnny Ussery- The Then 7 year old son of Clyda Dulaney! ?It is very possible and probable that there was other reasons for those crimes and those two houses. This comment has been removed by the author. Kasabian Thought for the Day: If Watson is attacking Voytek.."And while this was going on, the man had gotten up, and I saw Tex on top of him, hitting him on the head and stabbing him, and the man was struggling,"And Krenwinkel is chasing Abigail"then I saw Katie in the background with the girl, chasing after her with an upraised knife,"And this is was happening thirty feet outside the door.. "And then Sadie came running out of the house, and I said, "Sadie, please make it stop." The term Helter Skelter was taken from the Beatles White Album song of the same name. All those who oppose us are 'pigs' and to paraphrase a line used in connection with that bastion of capitalism, Wall Street, 'pigs' get eaten.4. Dont know about license but she did live in nadhia likre you said my mother cashed her welfare checks back in the 70s.She was shocked to see her. In fact, his case is better against her then Van Houten at that pointAccording to his book, nothing said in the grand jury could be used against Atkins and nothing she said could be used against her co defendants. I'm kinda thinkn' there were plenty of precursors, gleefully ignored, or dismissed.Linda's report cards packed with A's and B's? But I'll say no more and wait for the film to be released.Also, if you believe what is written in the Guinn book, while she didn't say Kasabian engaged in any violent acts, she claims she didn't do any of what she said on the stand. The figures show that 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. )I don't see her as having a personality disorder, just a consistently lawless mindset, which doesn't invalidate her ability or sometime willingness to do what is right. That makes Ms. Kasabian (as the key witness) a bit of pet project of mine. We do not know why any of them were picked. Not only that, she said she had to go get it from Squeaky and Charlie, if it were not true, would he have remained quiet about it ? Linda grew up in the New England town of Milford, New Hampshire. About what time did you arrive at the place?A (by Kasabian). Clearly, in his eyes he is as highly qualified to judge as God. He even admitted in his book that it was he and he alone that surmised it. Robert Hendrickson said"robbery" gone BAD.Well Dah ! Manson himself went inside and tied the victims and then left along with her and few others instructing the rest of the family members to kill them. Ruth's Mum wasn't in agreement with Dean and his changes. BUT even self-hate can have positive results and be a driving force for good.Supposedly there has been ONLY one person planted on this earth who was ALL good, but even HE committed assault & battery on "innocent" victims. Leslie and Linda did not grow up any worse than thousands of other kids. She turned State's Evidence and received immunity in exchange for her testimony, which was without a doubt, the most damaging to the family. But again, I would think people on both sides of this would have issues with her. We all know that the Saint is a good guy. I would have testified without a deal" translates when the evidence is revealed to 'I'm not talking even if the sky falls (but I will for immunity)"I thought that story was a pretty lame red herring and so without context. DEBUNKING THE BUNK PART 1: A Look at Joel Rostau, Thoughts on the LaBiancas and the motive on August 10th, Benedict Canyon Acoustics and Bugliosi's Timeline, The Law: Conspiracy to Commit Murder, Felony Murder and One for the Colonel. Manson Blog Proves that Tenerelli Was Not a Gypsy Joker! Before I graduated my draft lottery number was 289. I guess almost all is fair in love and war. No screaming for it to stop, etcThat would possibly be because at the time Kasabian asked for it to be stopped, Pat was inside struggling with Folger or chasing her through Tate's bedroom out to the pool. She's not the reason why some black males are serving life for Marijuana. Linda, who was found, possessing methamphetamine, avoided a jail sentence by attending drug-counseling classes. She droved straight to New Mexico, where her husband was living with another woman. If Fleischmann actually did come up with that plan to knock Atkins out of the last seat in the life boat it was brilliant. Even if she was alone for as long as 2 or 3 minutes, a pregnant, tied, tired, scared {described by Atkins as "going out of her mind"} Sharon wasn't The Fugitive on TV who would take the first possible opportunity to effect escape.From the confusion that all of the perps have spoken of that night, what I've gleaned is that we have all the details of what happened at Cielo but the order of events has never been clear after Jay was shot. Bruce, Tex, Leslie, Susan, Pat, Clem and Bobby all in one way or another made something of their lives without imploding. At the age of sixteen, she married but it ended in a divorce. One or the otherA young Sprite George Stimson and Sandy sit inches away from Bugs and Patti Tate and they all have a pretty good go at it as far as motive and other things :). document.write(part3 + ''); Prosecution ? Before goofball goes off on Hollywood did I hear her initially say 'she shouldn't have been there'? You can barely hear the dialogue and the transcript is full of "(Unintelligible)" and there are things she actually says that are not written in the transcript. Those people would have gone unpunished, and were very capable of murdering again, especially Watsonwhich as far as I can see was a good thing. Manson Blog Proves the Updated Manson File is Fiction! That's why she denied any knowledge of the LaBianca murders, but accidentally slipped up and supplied information helpful with Tate. Incidentally, it has been well established {by Bugliosi, in his book, well after the trials when there was nothing to gain} that it was Gary Fleishman that pushed for immunity, not Linda Kasabian. The problem of course is that Bugliosi does not want that answer. AKA: Linda Christian, Yana the Witch, Linda Chiochios. Are any of you people aware of the history of Jehanna D'arcAKA Jone of Arc?Delusionalmaybe, but it would be the equivalent of Lesley Van Houten taking her knife and not killing innocent soft targets, but storming the LAPD for her beliefs. Those failed strategies are ineffective in bringing about change. That Tex was the nicest guy. var part3 = "Deb at Mansonblog dot com"; I think after I began to beleive it was extraordinarily difficult to connect Tate and LaBianca on any other theory you are sort of left with HS or something like it. When her second marriage, to Armenian American Robert Kasabian, began to sour, Kasabian and her baby daughter, Tanya, returned to New Hampshire to live with Linda's mother. In Robert's book, there is some discussion on this that is quite interesting.But either way, it's a red herring. I am not heartless. During the Tate-LaBianca murders, Kasabian. I would have likely done the exact same thing. Don't get me wrong I do not believe any of these crazies actually had thought processes like that. If I point all these out here I won't have things to post in the future ;-). Does this not happen in many, many court cases ? Kasabian saw it as an opportunity to flee the ranch (without Tanya). I haven't been back to this thread in a couple of weeks. IF I was one of the defense attorneys, I would have asked Linda and most other Prosecution witnesses:1) I'm a little confused and maybe you can help us ALL understand this Helter Skelter business a little better. And even during that phase, they tried to paint her as the mastermind, but no one even attempted to say she killed anyone. She got lucky Atkins folded, leaving her the only game in town and she skatedAs human beings, we have a most wonderful ability to react and make life changing moves/decisions at the drop of a hat.However, Bugliosi did say that Linda wanted to testify for the prosecution even when they still had Atkins but he got the feeling that Fleischman wanted some kind of deal. She mentioned to the Grand Jury that there were to be 2 death squads. There again, some of us have brothers, sisters, Dads, Mums, cousins, close friends etc that are in that vein and we still love them just the same and haven't yet abandoned them, though it may have been touch and go sometimes. "The ONLY reason we're all confused is because "Healter Skelter" and "Death to Pigs" were written in blood at the LaBianca crime scene. In August 1969, she was instructed by Charles Manson to carry a knife, a change of clothing, and her drivers license and drive the family members Charles Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, and Patricia Krenwinkel to 10050 Cielo Drive, the residence of famous director Roman Polanski and his eight-months-pregnant wife, Sharon Tate. Linda Kasabian is a former member of the Manson family, a desert commune led by the infamous cult leader Charles Manson. When Charlie meets with Susan, even though she's plumbed him firmly in it with confessions, articles, interviews,a book and a grand jury starring role, she recants and ends up granting herself a one way ticket to oblivion.Coincidence ?Tex and Linda, on the other hand, don't see or have contact with Charlie and stick with their stories {even though we know Tex's is bullshit, some of Linda's is corroborated by Joe Sage}.Coincidence ?Fits her personality (disorder? Grim, I read Col Scott's piece when putting this together because I found something that led me there- might have been googling Fleischman. lol- it gets easier he had to teach me too :), St Circumstance saidBugs was never going to use Linda if Susan hadn't flipped on her decision to cooperateWell, he had no use for Linda as long as there was Susan. THUS, when America finally converts to a pure "socialist" society, "money won't mean anything" and "Helter Skelter" will become a moot issue in such a highly progressive society.BTW; It was Charles Manson who said: "money won't mean anything and the people on the bottom will be on the top." The price for everyone else was horrific. I think it's just Pat being nervous and trying to show that they were meant to kill everyone in the house. There is simply no hard and fast rule for this. Atkins herself made that point in "The Myth" Furthermore, Charlie was never charged with attempted murder for any of the other incidents on LaBianca night. Have a look here: https://www.google.com/search?q=jehanne+d%27arc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=joan+of+arc+book+pdf&start=10Back on subjectread anything by FBI profiler John Douglas and why Linda is a good person compared to the rest. Even to this day, what makes HS so strong is that it kept on coming up. Maybe some of you can pound beers everyday and do your bowls and never have a bad thought. I meant that they claim to know the "Real motive" My apologies George. You said Kreneinkle said it. It's no wonder her Mum was in despair.Linda showed amazing strength and guts to testify in the trials that she did but I don't think it's unfair to suggest that when it came to actual life and real living, she was one of the worst adverts for the counterculture and to some extent, gives the establishment their own justification for trying to pick apart the movement of those heady times. Manson, the mastermind criminal with an "uncanny ability" to brainwash people sent a girl who was on the ranch for a only a few weeks out on a murder mission, and didn't tell her the plan apparently.because she was licensed to drive?NOW. In his closing argument, he uttered some very telling words, namely; "The motives that the co~defendants, the actual killers, had, on the other hand, was a very simple motive. ?Leslie & Tex are the only ones that have stated that categorically and have remained with it. Neither Susan nor Linda were major league contributors to HS in the grand scheme of things.I guess we'll never know, but there are many people wondering how different things would have been had Pat never daubed "Healter Skelter" on the LaBianca's fridge.There are several occasions where he brings out testimony he doesn't need for a conviction just to make her look goodThere are more than several occasions when Kanarek brings out testimony he doesn't really need just to make her look bad. Bugliosi did say that he had planned to question Susan later so who knows, it may have come up. There is no one inside. When you get to the heart of it, it is Bugliosi who says the motive was HS (+ megalomania+ anti-social hatred of the establishment+ lust for murder depending on when). St Circumstance saidit just seems strange to me that nobody is willing to consider it at all, as even a possibilityI'm not nobody !Do you not think there is a difference between a person like Ruth who was 15 when her father starting using hard drugs with her and in front of her, and encouraging her to have sex with older strangers WINDING UP hanging around the wrong crowdAnd a single mother like Linda who has parents willing to help her stay out of trouble and encourage her not to be in trouble yet consistently throughout her life CHOOSES to be with the wrong crowd??? [And Bugliosi leads a reluctant Kasabian to the answer he wants. Hippies were generally viewed as only a couple of notches above the Family {who were themselves viewed as Hippies}. In fact, if I recall correctlyI believe she said earlier to her attorneys they went back to the ranch. She, like all of us, was/is a flawed person but not totally on the dark side. I didn't perceive you as the problem. She admits to getting into the car and being struck by the body being there but the spirit not. The "They had really bad backgrounds and nowhere else to turn" sympathy is appropriate in cases like Diane Lake and Ruth. very young, and not absent- but actually encouraging and contributing to the delinquency of their kids type of parents.But not Linda. !STAY OUT OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST!! He'd lose his train of thought and numerous times the Judge would ask him to put things in ways that could be understood because he didn't have a clue what Irving was on about. Reality is that some members of the victim's families (Debra's daughter comes to mind) might have been totally unaffected by 8/9/69. And there are times her testimony 'just don't make no sense'.A large part of this never saw the light of day because as Mr. Hendrickson noted there was no $$$$. Atkins remembers seeing Pat struggle with Abigail but can't recall the exact sequence of things where she was concerned or how she ended up crawling on the lawn as they were about to leave. But neither emerged in a vacuum. He admits things now but this is not "incarceration '69/70. She was last reported to be living with Tanya in Washington State. Given that she says all this in more or less the same group of sentences {in Robert's book}, which is it ? How about asking Mr. Peaslee why he wanted a divorce based on her endangering his mental or physical health. Perhaps he even was trying to remind her about the importance of midnight, we'll never know. What appeared peaceful at first to Linda Kasabian turned violent. 2 facts will always remain, namely that Tonya was safe and returned safely and that Linda set out out to retrieve her and did so.even in the worst of circumstances- people can make their own fate / But not Linda. I see the physical evidence not lining up with her testimony, her line of sight doesn't seem to allow her to see everything she has mentioned (I'm working on that one), several of her statements 'just don't make no sense' and many were brought out by leading questions. The other day you were hating on people who never killed one single communist or burned one village, because they used their draft deferrments to wait out the war. var part1 = "deb"; But I rereading my post above I do feel regret. I doubt it. Dreath saidGrim, I have to disagree with you a bitOnly a bit ? She chose to be the way she wasAround the age of 14, I chose to be the way I am and have been doing so ever since. So that's some good analysis Mother Kasabian. If Kanarek had handled this properly they never would have heard it. Susan's deal was that nothing she said could be used against any of her co~defendants and there was no evidence that Linda had been along on either night.Atkins claimed that the prosecution steered her into recanting but it was she who kept insisting on seeing Charlie, after which, she recanted.One wonders how he would have spun Sadie if he needed her instead of turning this obvious piece of trash into a little angel? She was in search of love, freedom and God. That change must include the BPPs Ten Points. At least ONE Black man personally died in the jungles of Vietnam so HE could get a FREE Blow-Job. We don't know you wouldn't strangle a Granny or torch a house while it's occupants are asleep.We don't know she didn't take part in acts of violence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE8_N-eBm_4Bill Clinton in London during 'Nam was a CIA plant who spied on the Anti-war protesters. After a day at the ranch, Linda returned to Topanga Canyon, retrieved her belongings, stole $5,000 from Melton, came back to Spahn's and joined the family. But again, while Susan was playing ball, Linda was surplus to requirements.and helping her knock Atkins out of the boxThat's the part I really don't believe. He wants midnight. One either believes it or one doesn't. On August 8, 1969, Kasabian and. I believe it. With a father like Dean who was hitting on girls his teenage daughter hung out with, and did drugs with his own underage kid, or Diane Lake whose parents live a similar lifestyle and literally give her their permission to run around with any group of older people she wants- I do feel sympathy. She was Yana the Fatty in high school I see. In the most beloved profession in America we are trained to disregard the Parry Mason notion of courtrooms: someone actually out and out lying on the witness stand. Of course there could have been alternative possibilities. WOW! 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